[P4] Fwd: Fwd: RE: Questions on EIT process
Tejfel Máté
matej at caesar.elte.hu
Tue Jul 25 21:29:53 CEST 2017
Nekem is jó... M.
2017-07-25 16:08 keltezéssel, Dániel Horpácsi írta:
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> Nekem jó ez is.
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> Dani
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> On 2017-07-25 15:17, Sándor Laki wrote:
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>> Mármint ez most 15-16 között van Budapest time.
>>
>> Üdv.
>>
>> Sanyi
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>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Fwd: RE: Questions on EIT process
>> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:16:40 +0200
>> From: Sándor Laki <lakis at inf.elte.hu>
>> To: p4 at plc.inf.elte.hu <p4 at plc.inf.elte.hu>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Maradjon ez, vagy próbáljuk előbbre hozni 1 órával?
>>
>> Üdv.
>>
>> Sanyi
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: RE: Questions on EIT process
>> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:12:57 +0000
>> From: Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>
>> To: Sándor Laki <lakis at inf.elte.hu>, Gergely Pongracz
>> <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
>> CC: Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>, O'Driscoll, Tim
>> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com>, p4 at plc.inf.elte.hu <p4 at plc.inf.elte.hu>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sandor,
>>
>> Great then, I just sent a calendar invite for Wed 14-15 CET (which
>> seems to be same as Irish time, and one hour earlier than Budapest time).
>>
>> Is our Skype bridge OK for you?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cristian
>>
>> *From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:39 AM
>> *To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>; Gergely
>> Pongracz <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
>> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
>> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com>; p4 at plc.inf.elte.hu
>> *Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
>>
>> Hi Cristian,
>>
>> We can also meet this week. I'm available 14-15 or 15-16 CET on
>> Wednesday, or 9-10 or 10-11 CET on Thursday. Meeting on Wednesday has
>> the benefit that Mate and other guys from the compiler developer team
>> can also join us.
>>
>> Looking forward to receiving your reply.
>>
>> Best,
>> Sandor
>>
>> On 2017.07.24. 20:15, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Sandor. We should definitely meet next week once Gergely
>> is back, just wondering if we could meet this week to ask a few
>> basic question on how the ELTE P4 compiler works? This should not
>> be news to Gergely, and it would be good to burn it out this
>> week. Is this OK with you?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Cristian
>>
>> *From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 8:32 AM
>> *To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>
>> <mailto:cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>; Gergely Pongracz
>> <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
>> <mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
>> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>
>> <mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
>> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com> <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
>>
>> Hi Cristian,
>>
>> Unfortunately, Gergely is out of office this week and he will be
>> back on next Monday. However, Mate and I are available for a
>> short skype call even this week.
>>
>> Best,
>> Sandor
>>
>> On 2017.07.21. 17:04, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
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>> Hi Sandor, Mate, Gergely,
>>
>> A collaboration around P4 is still very interesting for us
>> from the perspective of building on optimized SW switch
>> back-end that is programmable through P4 front-end, and we
>> have a few ideas on how we could collaborate.
>>
>> Are you guys available for a discussion next week?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Cristian
>>
>> *From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2017 12:25 PM
>> *To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>
>> <mailto:cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>; Gergely Pongracz
>> <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
>> <mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
>> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>
>> <mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
>> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com> <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
>>
>> Dear Cristian,
>>
>> sorry for the delay, but it was difficult to see what we can
>> do, since the rules in EIT changes year by year. According to
>> the information I got, it is not possible to include Intel
>> with allocated budget into the EIT. The only option if Intel
>> joins EIT Digital again. Subgranting (I think this is the
>> option for 3rd parties) can only be used to support SMEs and
>> start-ups, so currently we cannot use this way of funding.
>> From other perspective EIT requires us to include a
>> sustainability plan (basically we have to specify how to
>> share the profit of the project with EIT Digital and they
>> require exact numbers) that posses many challenges to
>> address. If you have any better news, please do not hesitate
>> to share with us. Of course, we will share the proposal text
>> with you and we can keep you informed about it's status. We
>> can also say that Intel supports the project, but tasks can
>> only be assigned to partners getting EIT funding.
>>
>> Besides EIT there may be other - more research oriented -
>> opportunities in the future where we can launch a joint
>> project. Anyway, we continue the work on our P4 compiler and
>> try to be active in P4 community. Since one of the platform
>> we focus on is Intel x86, we would be very happy to
>> collaborate with you - of course if you are also interested
>> in P4 and our research. FPGA-based direction seems also a
>> very interesting direction and I can also try to hire a new
>> PhD student with a related research topic.
>>
>> Keep in touch!
>>
>> Best,
>> Sandor
>>
>> On 2017.04.24. 20:05, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> The May deadline for project submission is fast
>> approaching. Given that Intel is not member of EIT
>> digital, is a joint submission still possible?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Cristian
>>
>> *From:*Dumitrescu, Cristian
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 11:50 AM
>> *To:* 'Sándor Laki' <lakis at inf.elte.hu>
>> <mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu>; Gergely Pongracz
>> <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
>> <mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
>> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>
>> <mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
>> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com> <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>
>> *Subject:* RE: Questions on EIT process
>>
>> Hi Sandor,
>>
>> Yes, we have checked internally with Dermot and we can
>> also confirm our understanding matches yours: Intel in
>> currently not a member of EIT Digital, therefore not able
>> to submit projects, not eligible for funding, but might
>> participate to an EIT Digital as 3^rd party.
>>
>> We need to meet and explore the options for going further
>> with/without EIT project.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Cristian
>>
>> *From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 5, 2017 8:10 PM
>> *To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com
>> <mailto:cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>>; Gergely Pongracz
>> <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com
>> <mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>>
>> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu
>> <mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>>; O'Driscoll, Tim
>> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
>>
>> Hi Cristian,
>>
>> Sorry for the delay, but I was traveling these days. Have
>> you managed to get information about the standpoint of
>> Intel about EIT Digital from Dermot Honan?
>> Here you can find his contact information: +353 1
>> 6067271, dermot.e.honan at intel.com
>> <mailto:dermot.e.honan at intel.com>
>>
>> Meanwhile, I was asking the London node about the
>> participation of Intel in this program, and I have just
>> got a more clear answer from the director of the London
>> node. Accordingly, Intel left EIT Digital some times ago
>> and thus it is not eligible for EIT funding in EIT
>> Digital projects anymore. It makes the collaboration
>> within EIT more complicated. Since we are still in time,
>> I also asked the office of Budapest node about the
>> possibilities to involve you (e.g. as a third party), but
>> it would be good if you can also ask e.g. Dermot about it
>> in parallel.
>>
>> According to these bad news, it may happen that we cannot
>> make this project in EIT Digital together, but we can
>> also consider other possibilities to collaborate if you
>> are interested in P4 and related things.
>>
>> I will also answer your questions below, but first I
>> would like to clearly see how we can move forward in the
>> administrative jungle of EIT.
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>> Best,
>> Sandor
>>
>> On 2017.04.04. 15:49, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sandor,
>>
>> As we are working internally to better understand the
>> EIT opportunity, define the potential project tasks,
>> get resources, etc we came up with some questions,
>> can you please help us to clarify them?
>>
>> 1.Project scope: What is the level of detail that we
>> have to use to describe the project scope as part of
>> the project submission?
>>
>> a.Is high level specification of project scope enough
>> to get the submission accepted, or should be define
>> the project scope in great detail?
>>
>> b.Is there flexibility to add changes to the project
>> scope after the project submission? Can we alter the
>> project course based on our findings during the
>> implementation phase or based on business priorities
>> at the time?
>>
>> 2.Deliverables: Do we need to commit on specific list
>> of project deliverables?
>>
>> a.What is the level of detail to specify deliverables?
>>
>> b.Any flexibility in post-submission updates based on
>> technical findings or business priorities?
>>
>> 3.Project resources: do we need to commit project
>> resources upfront?
>>
>> a.Which resources have to be committed upfront?
>> Resources for consideration: developers, computers,
>> other equipment, etc.
>>
>> 4.Deliverable ownership: Who owns the project
>> deliverables, is it EIT or the project partners?
>>
>> a.Are the project partners allowed to retain the
>> ownership of the SW?
>>
>> b.Is open source SW allowed as opposed to EIT
>> proprietary?
>>
>> 5.Funding from EU: Is EIT providing funding for the
>> project?
>>
>> a.What is the order of magnitude?
>>
>> b.How it this shared between partners?
>>
>> 6.Do you have some examples of successful project
>> submissions that we can take a look at?
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Cristian
>>
>> --
>>
>> Sándor Laki, PhD
>>
>> Assistant professor
>>
>> Department of Information Systems
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Sándor Laki, PhD
>>
>> Assistant professor
>>
>> Department of Information Systems
>>
>> Eötvös Loránd University
>>
>> Pázmány Péter stny. 1/C
>>
>> H-1117, Budapest, Hungary
>>
>> Room 2.506
>>
>> Web:http://lakis.web.elte.hu
>>
>> Phone: +36 1 372 2869 / 8477
>>
>> Cell: +36 70 374 2646
>>
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>> --
>>
>> Sándor Laki, PhD
>>
>> Assistant professor
>>
>> Department of Information Systems
>>
>> Eötvös Loránd University
>>
>> Pázmány Péter stny. 1/C
>>
>> H-1117, Budapest, Hungary
>>
>> Room 2.506
>>
>> Web:http://lakis.web.elte.hu
>>
>> Phone: +36 1 372 2869 / 8477
>>
>> Cell: +36 70 374 2646
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sándor Laki, PhD
>> Assistant professor
>> Department of Information Systems
>> Eötvös Loránd University
>> Pázmány Péter stny. 1/C
>> H-1117, Budapest, Hungary
>> Room 2.506
>> Web:http://lakis.web.elte.hu
>> Phone: +36 1 372 2869 / 8477
>> Cell: +36 70 374 2646
>>
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