[P4] Questions on EIT process
Sándor Laki
lakis at inf.elte.hu
Tue Jul 25 16:17:35 CEST 2017
Hi Cristian,
Thanks. Skype is also fine with us. My skype id is: sandor.laki
Best,
Sandor
On 2017.07.25. 15:12, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
>
> Hi Sandor,
>
> Great then, I just sent a calendar invite for Wed 14-15 CET (which
> seems to be same as Irish time, and one hour earlier than Budapest time).
>
> Is our Skype bridge OK for you?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cristian
>
> *From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:39 AM
> *To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>; Gergely
> Pongracz <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com>; p4 at plc.inf.elte.hu
> *Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
>
> Hi Cristian,
>
> We can also meet this week. I'm available 14-15 or 15-16 CET on
> Wednesday, or 9-10 or 10-11 CET on Thursday. Meeting on Wednesday has
> the benefit that Mate and other guys from the compiler developer team
> can also join us.
>
> Looking forward to receiving your reply.
>
> Best,
> Sandor
>
> On 2017.07.24. 20:15, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
>
> Thanks, Sandor. We should definitely meet next week once Gergely
> is back, just wondering if we could meet this week to ask a few
> basic question on how the ELTE P4 compiler works? This should not
> be news to Gergely, and it would be good to burn it out this week.
> Is this OK with you?
>
> Regards,
>
> Cristian
>
> *From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 8:32 AM
> *To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>
> <mailto:cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>; Gergely Pongracz
> <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com> <mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>
> <mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com> <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
>
> Hi Cristian,
>
> Unfortunately, Gergely is out of office this week and he will be
> back on next Monday. However, Mate and I are available for a short
> skype call even this week.
>
> Best,
> Sandor
>
> On 2017.07.21. 17:04, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
>
> Hi Sandor, Mate, Gergely,
>
> A collaboration around P4 is still very interesting for us
> from the perspective of building on optimized SW switch
> back-end that is programmable through P4 front-end, and we
> have a few ideas on how we could collaborate.
>
> Are you guys available for a discussion next week?
>
> Regards,
>
> Cristian
>
> *From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2017 12:25 PM
> *To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>
> <mailto:cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>; Gergely Pongracz
> <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
> <mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>
> <mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com> <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
>
> Dear Cristian,
>
> sorry for the delay, but it was difficult to see what we can
> do, since the rules in EIT changes year by year. According to
> the information I got, it is not possible to include Intel
> with allocated budget into the EIT. The only option if Intel
> joins EIT Digital again. Subgranting (I think this is the
> option for 3rd parties) can only be used to support SMEs and
> start-ups, so currently we cannot use this way of funding.
> From other perspective EIT requires us to include a
> sustainability plan (basically we have to specify how to share
> the profit of the project with EIT Digital and they require
> exact numbers) that posses many challenges to address. If you
> have any better news, please do not hesitate to share with us.
> Of course, we will share the proposal text with you and we can
> keep you informed about it's status. We can also say that
> Intel supports the project, but tasks can only be assigned to
> partners getting EIT funding.
>
> Besides EIT there may be other - more research oriented -
> opportunities in the future where we can launch a joint
> project. Anyway, we continue the work on our P4 compiler and
> try to be active in P4 community. Since one of the platform
> we focus on is Intel x86, we would be very happy to
> collaborate with you - of course if you are also interested in
> P4 and our research. FPGA-based direction seems also a very
> interesting direction and I can also try to hire a new PhD
> student with a related research topic.
>
> Keep in touch!
>
> Best,
> Sandor
>
> On 2017.04.24. 20:05, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> The May deadline for project submission is fast
> approaching. Given that Intel is not member of EIT
> digital, is a joint submission still possible?
>
> Regards,
>
> Cristian
>
> *From:*Dumitrescu, Cristian
> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 11:50 AM
> *To:* 'Sándor Laki' <lakis at inf.elte.hu>
> <mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu>; Gergely Pongracz
> <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
> <mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>
> <mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com> <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Questions on EIT process
>
> Hi Sandor,
>
> Yes, we have checked internally with Dermot and we can
> also confirm our understanding matches yours: Intel in
> currently not a member of EIT Digital, therefore not able
> to submit projects, not eligible for funding, but might
> participate to an EIT Digital as 3^rd party.
>
> We need to meet and explore the options for going further
> with/without EIT project.
>
> Regards,
>
> Cristian
>
> *From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 5, 2017 8:10 PM
> *To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com
> <mailto:cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>>; Gergely Pongracz
> <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com
> <mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>>
> *Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu
> <mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>>; O'Driscoll, Tim
> <tim.odriscoll at intel.com <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
>
> Hi Cristian,
>
> Sorry for the delay, but I was traveling these days. Have
> you managed to get information about the standpoint of
> Intel about EIT Digital from Dermot Honan?
> Here you can find his contact information: +353 1 6067271,
> dermot.e.honan at intel.com <mailto:dermot.e.honan at intel.com>
>
> Meanwhile, I was asking the London node about the
> participation of Intel in this program, and I have just
> got a more clear answer from the director of the London
> node. Accordingly, Intel left EIT Digital some times ago
> and thus it is not eligible for EIT funding in EIT Digital
> projects anymore. It makes the collaboration within EIT
> more complicated. Since we are still in time, I also asked
> the office of Budapest node about the possibilities to
> involve you (e.g. as a third party), but it would be good
> if you can also ask e.g. Dermot about it in parallel.
>
> According to these bad news, it may happen that we cannot
> make this project in EIT Digital together, but we can also
> consider other possibilities to collaborate if you are
> interested in P4 and related things.
>
> I will also answer your questions below, but first I would
> like to clearly see how we can move forward in the
> administrative jungle of EIT.
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Best,
> Sandor
>
> On 2017.04.04. 15:49, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
>
> Hi Sandor,
>
> As we are working internally to better understand the
> EIT opportunity, define the potential project tasks,
> get resources, etc we came up with some questions, can
> you please help us to clarify them?
>
> 1.Project scope: What is the level of detail that we
> have to use to describe the project scope as part of
> the project submission?
>
> a.Is high level specification of project scope enough
> to get the submission accepted, or should be define
> the project scope in great detail?
>
> b.Is there flexibility to add changes to the project
> scope after the project submission? Can we alter the
> project course based on our findings during the
> implementation phase or based on business priorities
> at the time?
>
> 2.Deliverables: Do we need to commit on specific list
> of project deliverables?
>
> a.What is the level of detail to specify deliverables?
>
> b.Any flexibility in post-submission updates based on
> technical findings or business priorities?
>
> 3.Project resources: do we need to commit project
> resources upfront?
>
> a.Which resources have to be committed upfront?
> Resources for consideration: developers, computers,
> other equipment, etc.
>
> 4.Deliverable ownership: Who owns the project
> deliverables, is it EIT or the project partners?
>
> a.Are the project partners allowed to retain the
> ownership of the SW?
>
> b.Is open source SW allowed as opposed to EIT proprietary?
>
> 5.Funding from EU: Is EIT providing funding for the
> project?
>
> a.What is the order of magnitude?
>
> b.How it this shared between partners?
>
> 6.Do you have some examples of successful project
> submissions that we can take a look at?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Cristian
>
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>
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> Sándor Laki, PhD
>
> Assistant professor
>
> Department of Information Systems
>
> Eötvös Loránd University
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> H-1117, Budapest, Hungary
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> Sándor Laki, PhD
>
> Assistant professor
>
> Department of Information Systems
>
> Eötvös Loránd University
>
> Pázmány Péter stny. 1/C
>
> H-1117, Budapest, Hungary
>
> Room 2.506
>
> Web:http://lakis.web.elte.hu
>
> Phone: +36 1 372 2869 / 8477
>
> Cell: +36 70 374 2646
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>
> --
> Sándor Laki, PhD
> Assistant professor
> Department of Information Systems
> Eötvös Loránd University
> Pázmány Péter stny. 1/C
> H-1117, Budapest, Hungary
> Room 2.506
> Web:http://lakis.web.elte.hu
> Phone: +36 1 372 2869 / 8477
> Cell: +36 70 374 2646
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Sándor Laki, PhD
Assistant professor
Department of Information Systems
Eötvös Loránd University
Pázmány Péter stny. 1/C
H-1117, Budapest, Hungary
Room 2.506
Web: http://lakis.web.elte.hu
Phone: +36 1 372 2869 / 8477
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