[P4] Fwd: RE: Questions on EIT process
Sándor Laki
lakis at inf.elte.hu
Tue Jul 25 15:16:40 CEST 2017
Hi,
Maradjon ez, vagy próbáljuk előbbre hozni 1 órával?
Üdv.
Sanyi
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Subject: RE: Questions on EIT process
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:12:57 +0000
From: Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>
To: Sándor Laki <lakis at inf.elte.hu>, Gergely Pongracz
<Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
CC: Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>, O'Driscoll, Tim
<tim.odriscoll at intel.com>, p4 at plc.inf.elte.hu <p4 at plc.inf.elte.hu>
Hi Sandor,
Great then, I just sent a calendar invite for Wed 14-15 CET (which seems
to be same as Irish time, and one hour earlier than Budapest time).
Is our Skype bridge OK for you?
Thanks,
Cristian
*From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:39 AM
*To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>; Gergely
Pongracz <Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
*Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
<tim.odriscoll at intel.com>; p4 at plc.inf.elte.hu
*Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
Hi Cristian,
We can also meet this week. I'm available 14-15 or 15-16 CET on
Wednesday, or 9-10 or 10-11 CET on Thursday. Meeting on Wednesday has
the benefit that Mate and other guys from the compiler developer team
can also join us.
Looking forward to receiving your reply.
Best,
Sandor
On 2017.07.24. 20:15, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
Thanks, Sandor. We should definitely meet next week once Gergely is
back, just wondering if we could meet this week to ask a few basic
question on how the ELTE P4 compiler works? This should not be news
to Gergely, and it would be good to burn it out this week. Is this
OK with you?
Regards,
Cristian
*From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
*Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 8:32 AM
*To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>
<mailto:cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>; Gergely Pongracz
<Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com> <mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
*Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>
<mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
<tim.odriscoll at intel.com> <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>
*Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
Hi Cristian,
Unfortunately, Gergely is out of office this week and he will be
back on next Monday. However, Mate and I are available for a short
skype call even this week.
Best,
Sandor
On 2017.07.21. 17:04, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
Hi Sandor, Mate, Gergely,
A collaboration around P4 is still very interesting for us from
the perspective of building on optimized SW switch back-end that
is programmable through P4 front-end, and we have a few ideas on
how we could collaborate.
Are you guys available for a discussion next week?
Regards,
Cristian
*From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2017 12:25 PM
*To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>
<mailto:cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>; Gergely Pongracz
<Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
<mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
*Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>
<mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
<tim.odriscoll at intel.com> <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>
*Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
Dear Cristian,
sorry for the delay, but it was difficult to see what we can do,
since the rules in EIT changes year by year. According to the
information I got, it is not possible to include Intel with
allocated budget into the EIT. The only option if Intel joins
EIT Digital again. Subgranting (I think this is the option for
3rd parties) can only be used to support SMEs and start-ups, so
currently we cannot use this way of funding. From other
perspective EIT requires us to include a sustainability plan
(basically we have to specify how to share the profit of the
project with EIT Digital and they require exact numbers) that
posses many challenges to address. If you have any better news,
please do not hesitate to share with us. Of course, we will
share the proposal text with you and we can keep you informed
about it's status. We can also say that Intel supports the
project, but tasks can only be assigned to partners getting EIT
funding.
Besides EIT there may be other - more research oriented -
opportunities in the future where we can launch a joint project.
Anyway, we continue the work on our P4 compiler and try to be
active in P4 community. Since one of the platform we focus on
is Intel x86, we would be very happy to collaborate with you -
of course if you are also interested in P4 and our research.
FPGA-based direction seems also a very interesting direction and
I can also try to hire a new PhD student with a related research
topic.
Keep in touch!
Best,
Sandor
On 2017.04.24. 20:05, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
Hi guys,
The May deadline for project submission is fast approaching.
Given that Intel is not member of EIT digital, is a joint
submission still possible?
Regards,
Cristian
*From:*Dumitrescu, Cristian
*Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 11:50 AM
*To:* 'Sándor Laki' <lakis at inf.elte.hu>
<mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu>; Gergely Pongracz
<Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
<mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>
*Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu>
<mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>; O'Driscoll, Tim
<tim.odriscoll at intel.com> <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>
*Subject:* RE: Questions on EIT process
Hi Sandor,
Yes, we have checked internally with Dermot and we can also
confirm our understanding matches yours: Intel in currently
not a member of EIT Digital, therefore not able to submit
projects, not eligible for funding, but might participate to
an EIT Digital as 3^rd party.
We need to meet and explore the options for going further
with/without EIT project.
Regards,
Cristian
*From:*Sándor Laki [mailto:lakis at inf.elte.hu]
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 5, 2017 8:10 PM
*To:* Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com
<mailto:cristian.dumitrescu at intel.com>>; Gergely Pongracz
<Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com
<mailto:Gergely.Pongracz at ericsson.com>>
*Cc:* Tejfel Máté <matej at caesar.elte.hu
<mailto:matej at caesar.elte.hu>>; O'Driscoll, Tim
<tim.odriscoll at intel.com <mailto:tim.odriscoll at intel.com>>
*Subject:* Re: Questions on EIT process
Hi Cristian,
Sorry for the delay, but I was traveling these days. Have
you managed to get information about the standpoint of Intel
about EIT Digital from Dermot Honan?
Here you can find his contact information: +353 1 6067271,
dermot.e.honan at intel.com <mailto:dermot.e.honan at intel.com>
Meanwhile, I was asking the London node about the
participation of Intel in this program, and I have just got
a more clear answer from the director of the London node.
Accordingly, Intel left EIT Digital some times ago and thus
it is not eligible for EIT funding in EIT Digital projects
anymore. It makes the collaboration within EIT more
complicated. Since we are still in time, I also asked the
office of Budapest node about the possibilities to involve
you (e.g. as a third party), but it would be good if you can
also ask e.g. Dermot about it in parallel.
According to these bad news, it may happen that we cannot
make this project in EIT Digital together, but we can also
consider other possibilities to collaborate if you are
interested in P4 and related things.
I will also answer your questions below, but first I would
like to clearly see how we can move forward in the
administrative jungle of EIT.
Thank you in advance!
Best,
Sandor
On 2017.04.04. 15:49, Dumitrescu, Cristian wrote:
Hi Sandor,
As we are working internally to better understand the
EIT opportunity, define the potential project tasks, get
resources, etc we came up with some questions, can you
please help us to clarify them?
1.Project scope: What is the level of detail that we
have to use to describe the project scope as part of the
project submission?
a.Is high level specification of project scope enough to
get the submission accepted, or should be define the
project scope in great detail?
b.Is there flexibility to add changes to the project
scope after the project submission? Can we alter the
project course based on our findings during the
implementation phase or based on business priorities at
the time?
2.Deliverables: Do we need to commit on specific list of
project deliverables?
a.What is the level of detail to specify deliverables?
b.Any flexibility in post-submission updates based on
technical findings or business priorities?
3.Project resources: do we need to commit project
resources upfront?
a.Which resources have to be committed upfront?
Resources for consideration: developers, computers,
other equipment, etc.
4.Deliverable ownership: Who owns the project
deliverables, is it EIT or the project partners?
a.Are the project partners allowed to retain the
ownership of the SW?
b.Is open source SW allowed as opposed to EIT proprietary?
5.Funding from EU: Is EIT providing funding for the project?
a.What is the order of magnitude?
b.How it this shared between partners?
6.Do you have some examples of successful project
submissions that we can take a look at?
Thanks for your help!
Regards,
Cristian
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