[Distributed_systems] ?==?utf-8?q? week 8-13 (or?==?utf-8?q? not?)

[Török Márk]

Hi Dani, and Other,

If you have doubts about collaboration, why did not you bring this up during the weekly call?
It is easily possible that others think different. 


Collaboration: Collaboration is not easy! It takes time. Everybody is different,
the catch up time differs. And don't forget, just one week and a half have gone.
We are at the beginning. Though, it is very common that some people do not want to contribute unfortunately.

Format: As you said, without following a common format, the collaboration is doomed to failure.
Though, I have never been asked about the format. Who chose the format?
This is another topic for the next weekly call.

Videos: Videos are an additional resource of teaching that is very new at our university.
Many people doubt about their efficiency and effectiveness, though this technique has been at other universities abroad for ages.


I am adding other topics which I am very curious about:
* Who wants to contribute and in which part?
* Who does not want to contribute
* How can we make classes to be prepared at least a week earlier.

Guys, the current situation is far not easy and a lot of work ahead of us.
If we split, the same work will be done many times. Not worth it!

Keep up!

Mark
 
2020 Április 4, Szombat 21:26 CEST dátummal, Lukács Dániel <dlukacs at caesar.elte.hu> ezt írta: 
 
> I think we should cancel our collaboration attempts in creating common 
> teaching materials this semester, and instead we should just keep doing 
> our own thing in the labs (except for conducting nagybeadandó and exams, 
> where it is mandatory).
> 
> 
> My reasons:
> 
> 1. Currently, there is very little discussion going on about the 
> contributed work items (incl. Péter's video), whether you can use them 
> or how would you change them to be able to use them. It's very hard to 
> create useful tools when you don't get any feedback from your users. And 
> there is no point in sharing stuff if the team members don't care enough 
> to review and use them.
> 
> 2. The same goes for standard formats. Obviously, it's not really 
> possible to collaborate without following a common standard. Students 
> cannot work with a different format every week, and it's hard on the 
> teacher as well. Yet in two weeks almost no discussion happened about 
> common class and assignment format whatsoever. (Actually, the topic 

> seems to be deliberately avoided in lots of cases.) It's not discussed 
> whether it matches your needs, or what would you like to change, or 

> whether you have a better system.
> 
> 3. Finally, Tamás also seemed to be in doubt during yesterday's meeting, 
> yet at 03-27 he was the originator of this idea of having videos to 

> increase interactive work during class. It may be a good idea to wait 
> until someone with authority makes up their mind on how things should 
> look like in this course. Without a clear goal, there is really no point 
> pushing and forcing people to do something.
> 
> 
> I'm mostly interested in hearing Márk's and Péter's opinion about this 
> move, since they are already actively contributing useful ideas and 

> materials. (Thank you for that!)
> 
> Either way, Robi's original schedule will keep us more or less in sync.
> 
> 
> Dániel
> 
> 
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